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Post by rickl on Sept 19, 2011 14:49:53 GMT -6
Its 48". I really dont know how to stock a tang tank at all. My 125 is extremely understocked. I have like 20 fish in it right now with mbuna and a few synos Tang tanks are generally stocked differently than Malawi tanks, since the common tangs tend towards substrate spawning rather than overwhelmingly mouth-brooding. Obviously fronts and cyps mouthbrood, as do xenos and gobies, but all of the lamprologines are substrate spawners. A substrate spawner needs a territory he can call his own, and he generally won't share it well with others. This often means you can add cyps for the open water, or a pair of gobies without much trouble, but if you want to add lamprologines to a tank then you need to be sure the hardscape supports them claiming a territory. Sand-sifters are mouth-brooders, but they like to build bowers and will often demand a fair amount of the tank footprint. Of course Frontosa and tropheus are different beasts entirely, but I speaking mostly of Tanganyikan "community" tanks. Lots of different flavors of fish in Lake Tang, each of which has different needs... of course you already knew that  . -Rick (the armchair aquarist) |
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Post by bnoel210 on Sept 19, 2011 15:05:04 GMT -6
Ya im trying to setup something thats nice to look at and cool, but would like to get some fry also. Its all a learning experience
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Post by jgentry on Sept 21, 2011 20:32:42 GMT -6
I hope no one was planning to buy any fish from Jon. I think I just cleaned him out.
It was good to visit for a minute Jon. Thanks for the good fish and good deals. All are doing great. I just dumped the small peacocks in with the big boys and hoped for the best. So far so good.
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Post by glenoweth on Sept 22, 2011 6:50:21 GMT -6
Ya im trying to setup something thats nice to look at and cool, but would like to get some fry also. Its all a learning experience If you want color Do cyprs, and Xenos they are some of the coolest Tangs out there! and are always active. There is something about Cyprichromis that also calms other fish in the tank Because they are schooling fish ,and are always out in the open. I noticed this when I added my MOba frontosa to the tank to grow them out, in the old tank they would all kind of hide ,but when i put them with the cyprichromis they will come out in the open as long as the Cyprichromis are out. Even moving my Male Cyp Katate (5 males) to my 200gal with some calvus that I never saw because they stayed hid once I amde the change Even they come out now... it kind of cool how they do that. Cyprichromis: something I have noticed about my Cyprichromis if you have a few in a tank (i moved some males) they will tend to hide! so you need atleast 8+ i would say. I guess they just feel safer in larger numbers. Types i have: Cyprichromis leptosoma Katete (males only growing otu females) cyprichromis microlepidotus sibwesa (breeding) Xenos: These Fish are so colorful ,and fun to watch Plus if you have sand they keep it turned and clean! Enantiopus melanogenys Zambian, are the ones i keep. Other options of fish to go with Cyps, and Xenos:Callochromis melanostigma Burundi, or flame: really neat fish they look like nerdy fish, big eyes big head short bodies. I just added some of these to my Cyprichromis/Xeno tank. |
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Post by rickl on Sept 22, 2011 8:42:48 GMT -6
I like the eyes on the callochromis. I hear some of the species can get pretty vicious, but I don't know which. Most of these xenos/enants and callochromis like "vast... tracts of" open sand, though sight breaks are seldom a bad idea when you're involving multiple species or want multiple males. There are a few xeno species that primarily live over rocks, but I forget which ones they are. If I were doing a 125 (and my wallet could support it), I'd go with a BIG school of cyprichromis leptosoma, probably 18-20 of a non-jumbo flavor, like utinta. I'd set up rockwork at one end, and shells at the other. That gives me a substrate spawner at each end, cyps for the open water, and now I have a choice for the middle -- sand dwellers, or more rockwork for another substrate spawning species. Then I'd toss in a pair of gobies for giggles. It may be possible to get 4-5 species all breeding in a tank this size, though fry predation will likely be quite high, particularly among the mouthbrooders who tend to exhibit less post-partum parental care. Glen's actually done this though, so listen to him instead of me, I just dream about tanganyikan tanks rather than actually building them  . -Rick |
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Post by glenoweth on Sept 23, 2011 6:46:37 GMT -6
I like the eyes on the callochromis. I hear some of the species can get pretty vicious, but I don't know which. Most of these xenos/enants and callochromis like "vast... tracts of" open sand, though sight breaks are seldom a bad idea when you're involving multiple species or want multiple males. There are a few xeno species that primarily live over rocks, but I forget which ones they are. If I were doing a 125 (and my wallet could support it), I'd go with a BIG school of cyprichromis leptosoma, probably 18-20 of a non-jumbo flavor, like utinta. I'd set up rockwork at one end, and shells at the other. That gives me a substrate spawner at each end, cyps for the open water, and now I have a choice for the middle -- sand dwellers, or more rockwork for another substrate spawning species. Then I'd toss in a pair of gobies for giggles. It may be possible to get 4-5 species all breeding in a tank this size, though fry predation will likely be quite high, particularly among the mouthbrooders who tend to exhibit less post-partum parental care. Glen's actually done this though, so listen to him instead of me, I just dream about tanganyikan tanks rather than actually building them . -Rick Yeah The 100gal tank in my kitchen just changed Rick the day after you came over. The Idea you have above was my plan and it worked fine as a grow out tank but once things started growing the wars began!!! nothing to bad ,but i could tell the fish needed a change. I moved out all the Male Cypr katate, Multies, occies, and the one 7 bar front. only leaving My micro Cypr, Xenos, small Moba fronts (grow out), a pair of golbies, and a few callochromis (see how they do). With cypr and Xenos i think they do best in a tank together xenos on the bottom, and cypr on top. with a few golbies like you said i the backgroud on the rocks! The callochromis I got are burundi and so far they are not causing to much trouble ,but this is my 1st time having this type of fish so we shall see... they seem to like the ricks more than the sand. they are kind of funny though, they dip thier whole head in the sand when they do get in it lol.... kind of funny to watch. reminds me of chickens eating the way they peck the ground. |
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Post by jon carman on Sept 23, 2011 7:17:38 GMT -6
The callochromis will get a bit nasty, but mainly will be directed towards other callochromis. They are worth the try. I have 6 and so far they are behaving, but they are still small
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Post by signde on Sept 23, 2011 15:10:25 GMT -6
do you still have the large synodontis eupterus?
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