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Post by jtrotter77 on May 20, 2012 6:45:03 GMT -6
I know some people hate hybrids but if its intentional for pet trade purposes and being sold as such I see no problems. that in mind I found these online. I really like the juli x brichari and the black widow fronts(pandas) the hap,peacock is cool to. Attachments:
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Post by jtrotter77 on May 20, 2012 6:46:31 GMT -6
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Post by jtrotter77 on May 20, 2012 6:46:55 GMT -6
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Post by jtrotter77 on May 20, 2012 6:48:30 GMT -6
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Post by jtrotter77 on May 20, 2012 6:49:28 GMT -6
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Post by jtrotter77 on May 20, 2012 6:50:29 GMT -6
last three pics I think are on the thai juice.
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Post by signde on May 20, 2012 9:21:24 GMT -6
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Post by glenoweth on May 21, 2012 9:48:59 GMT -6
It might just be me but i would own them! lol I think they look neet if they stay that way! |
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Post by paddysdaddy on Jun 17, 2012 9:54:37 GMT -6
So what are the Frontosas crossed with to result in the "Panda Frontosa"?
Funny, I've culled every frontosa fry with uneven stripes for many years. "One man's trash" right?
And does anyone know anything about the "Red Frontosas" coming out of asia? I suspect it's just another line bred trait and my fellow wild caught fans won't even talk about them LOL.
I'm not into hybrids, but what one does in the privacy of their fishroom is their business...as long as they do not pass them on as something pure (any eventually SOMEONE always does this!).
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Post by jtrotter77 on Jun 17, 2012 11:06:42 GMT -6
yes for years I only dealt with F0's and sold the F'1s Hybrids were basically a mum word and was thought of as a mutt and trash. I usually used accidental breedings as food. But with the popularity of designer dogs it was only a few years later and designer fish were hot sellers.I think the OB and the Ruby and German Reds are mostly responsible for that. Although the reds were line bred that way from sunshine's it opened more Hobbiest up to the possibilities of purposeful hybrids and line breeds.
so in keeping with the trend I jumped onboard. I still have my F0 flametails but as for wilds thats it now. I had tons of different ones.Now my tangs are all pure bloods but I'm open to anything with malawi.
That being said I am afraid that pure strains are getting harder to get legit so I am actually clearing some room to start some breeding projects of the pures again.
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Post by rickl on Jun 19, 2012 8:07:50 GMT -6
Yeah, that's the primary reason I don't do hybrids. Hybrid saturation of the market can make it harder to get pure strains, and people won't think twice about taking their 1/2 brichardi 1/2 juli and breeding it back to their julie a couple times... and then they look pretty much like julies except now and againt they throw a funny looking fry. The funny thing is my wife loves Parrot cichlids (not the real one from SA, but the crazy engineered one). I personally don't care for the look of OB peacocks anyways, so there aren't many hybrids out there that I go "ooh, I want!".
-Rick (the armchair aquarist)
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Post by ree123 on Jun 19, 2012 14:59:07 GMT -6
There will always be a mix of opinion on many topics in our world. Politics, Religion, Sex, Abortion, fish forums, and crossed fish, to name but a select few of thousands.
The problem is not that any cross produces ugly fish, but that they have no taxonomy to follow them as any given species of anything, then get into the trade and some members/hobbyists don't want to see these traits.
This very thing happened here when one didn't know exact backgrounds of genealogy, which is no big deal to some, and another received some of them, and it mattered to them.
I reckon buyer beware is always in order in a world where so many folks are now OK with crossing so many different things.
It is just the world we now live in.
Think about it this way. 100 or so years ago it was almost unheard of for people to cross races. Now it is all so common place. I am not saying I agree or disagree, but it is the exact same example, and folks have opinions on everything, even this.
Plants are even having some of these same issues if you read on any of the multiple plant forums. Even our food products we consume are many times crosses of different plants.
This situation seems to be effecting all living things in our world today.
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