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Post by jgentry on Jul 19, 2009 5:36:59 GMT -6
Well, I'm not sure there is really anything that I can do other then wait. I have a archocentrus centrarchus pair and every 12-15 days the females lays eggs. As soon as she lays them she starts eating them. They are in a divided 40g tank with a pair of HRP on the otherside. About the only thing I could do is move them to a completely seperate tank. Not sure that it will help though. They are pretty secluded were they are.
Really starting to tick me off. She has done this the last 5 times.
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Post by angel on Jul 19, 2009 6:50:07 GMT -6
Wow does he get them fertilized first or does she lay one and eat it right away?
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Post by sirknight on Jul 19, 2009 7:26:12 GMT -6
if these fish never spawned (meaning up to wigglers), I would try one last time. Move them to their own tank (at least 40 gallons) in a very quit area without a lot of outside the tank movement (low traffic area).
Do they go through the spawning ritual or does she just lay eggs?
If she just lays eggs and eats them, either you have:
1) immature male,
2) incompatible pair, meaning the female is beating up on the male and not letting him near the spawning site
3) a sick male
4) two females.
Joe
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Post by jgentry on Jul 19, 2009 7:37:49 GMT -6
Well they are definately male and female.
The female stays in breeding dress now. The males do not change until the fry become free swimming so he is normal coloration. They are both at adult size. They stay together and only fight (spare, not really fighting right before she lays). They are in my fishroom that has no traffic or bright light, and they see me twice a day. Nothing else ever happens in there.
It goes like this. She lays, he fallows behind her fertilizering, she goes behind him and starts eating them. Within a period of 1hr she has laid and eat them every time. I have only witnessed one of the spawns but when I come home and there a couple of eggs left on the pot is is pretty obvious that she ate them again.
I'll try moving them today. Hopefully they will settle in and spawn again aroud the end of the month. I'm going to give them about 2 more months to get this right or her but is getting the boot for another female.
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Post by sirknight on Jul 19, 2009 10:41:35 GMT -6
you maybe right with the female, but I would still try a different male after the move and another attempt at spawning. He may not be fertilizing the eggs even if it seems like he is. That could be the reason she is eating them. I know you know this, but I am going to ask anyway. You have seen the breeding tubes and the females is blunt and the males is pointed. The reason I say this is because I have had two females spawn, one pretending to be a male.
just something else to consider
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Post by jgentry on Jul 19, 2009 12:32:57 GMT -6
Good advice. I thought the same thing after the second time and netted the supposed male out to see for sure. I bought them from Jeff Rapps as a M/F and I'm not an expert at venting, but the larger supposed male definately looked male to me. The smaller female I've seen lay so I didn't pull her out to see. If there are any at the ACA I'll probably pick some up and try some different pairings.
This could also be becuase they are a forced pair. I prefer to try to pick the best specimans and try to make it work, a lot of times you don't get that great compatable pair this way. But you almost never get the best 2 specimens to pair off if you buy a group and just keep the first 2 that pair off. I prefer to try to pick the best quality 2 and try to get better quality fry. Doesn't always work as easy though. I suspect this might be part of my trouble.
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